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Epiphany to Stage Four

Tribal Leadership’s been in stores for a little over a week, and the response has been beyond encouraging. One group of people is responding to the business case for Stage Four tribes—higher profits, increased productivity, greater shareholder value. B school stuff.

Another group, smaller and more reflective says that the chapter on the epiphany of Tribal Leadership haunts them. They literally can’t stop thinking about it, feeling it. It’s as though it’s working on them.

Last week, for only the second time, I presented our research on the epiphany. This audience—or rather peer group, because the epiphany has no experts—the Sierra Health Foundation leadership program alumni group. Here it is in a nutshell: the more you develop yourself as a leader, the less a leader you are. Repeat that a few times and you’ll feel its impact. As a group, we mulled it over, looked at it from the viewpoints of psychology, business, sociology, even spirituality, and here’s what we came to.

What takes someone to Stage Three is development of self—education, skills, networking, success. But everything they want, at a deep level, seems ever out of grasp. Loyalty, deep respect, even love (from the tribe), are unattainable at Stage Three. The more I develop myself so I can get these things, the more elude me.

The real divide between Stage Three and Four is to see that leadership makes the leader catalytic, almost invisible. Gandhi, Mandela, and King spoke for tribes they represented. What they saw was the embodiment of the values of the groups they represented. Many people don’t know Gandhi’s profession before he worked to free India from the British, because the messenger didn’t matter. (He was a barrister, an attorney.)

It was the same with people we interviewed for Tribal Leadership—Gordon Binder, former CEO of Amgen, Bob Tobias, former leader of a union for federal employees, and Frank Jordan, former mayor and police chief of San Francisco. In asking to speak with them, all said the same thing: “why do you want to talk to me, I didn’t do anything.”

That’s how it looks from the other side of the epiphany. In moving to Stage Four, all that matters is the tribe, and the person no longer says “I did it,” but rather “they did—at best, I got out of the way.” In fairness, they did much more, as any member of the tribe will say. In fact, here’s an almost foolproof way to see if someone has had the epiphany: ask them how much they had to do with their tribe’s success. If they say anything more than what Binder, Tobias, and Jordan said, there’s a good chance the epiphany hasn’t broken in them yet.

Our thanks to the Sierra Health Foundation, and to USC’s Executive Master of Leadership program—the only two times we’ve had the opportunity to discuss the epiphany. In both cases, we walked away inspired by what these tribes knew and had to contribute. Even when you write about the epiphany, you are still its student.

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on February 2, 2008, 7:36 am
Dave-It's humbling to comment on this topic. It's true..."even when you write about the epiphany, we are still its student." Thank you for writing this book w/John & Halee. There is something magical that happens when you can read the words on paper and know that there is language to describe your experience. Thank you for having the courage to share this concept with the SHF Leadership Alum Group. I was honored to be present. For those not present, there was a stillness in the room after Dave presented as if to honor the "sacredness" of the Epiphany. I believe the silence is because this experience is so deeply personal and inter-woven with who we are as human beings, "leaders" and the "work" we do. I've caught glimpses of the Epiphany.

Much has been written about servant leadership. I think this is connected to the experience of an Epiphany. When you stop worrying about trying to be the best "leader" and focus on serving the people you work with and for, amazing things happen. At times, work seems effortless.

This week, our Agency implemented a re-org based on the teachings of Dave Logan & John King during SHF Leadership Program. I used the triad concept to form an Exec Management team. It was exhilarating to see the full management team embrace it because of what it means to the positive future direction of our organization. Someone told me that though there were tough parts to implement and hard decisions that were made, they could tell that I was "at peace". Basically, they shared that it was this "peace" they saw that was allowing them to "follow" or move forward. In these moments, it is more about getting in touch with our selves and the shared core values we hold that allows the organization to transcend. It sounds so simple and as Dave says it alludes us....this was a defining moment in our organization's history and in my life....perhaps an Epiphany is breaking....can anyone be sure? Does any one think another indicator of an Epiphany breaking is when fun replaces fear? I'm excited to hear the experiences of others!


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on February 18, 2008, 12:05 pm
I've never met Kay, but echo everything she said. The epiphany was a humbling, exhilarating and sobering experinece. The idea of aligning people around a noble cause, is very powerful. It's sobering when you realize that several of the people on the same payroll do not embrace the noble cause we are trying to promote. The "click down" concept and sevarl others have helped me communicate and "drill down" to values that I hadn't seen in several of my colleagues in a really positive way. Sadly, it also helped me realized that some of them would most likely never align with our noble purpose, and the ramifications that has on a mission-driven organization.

John, David and Haylee, than you for the gift of Tribal Leadership. It's caused me to think about things that I never had before, and gave me a language to communicate what I've been living and feeling for years.

With gratitude,

Amanda



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Posted by Dave Logan  
on March 1, 2008, 9:07 am
Kay and Amanda,

It's people like you that make this work so enjoyable and rewarding.

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